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	<title>Comments on: 3 Claims In Dove&#8217;s &#8220;Soap vs Dove&#8221; Ads That Are Misleading</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jan 2011 20:11:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;m doing a science project to prove if the claim on the dove commercial that dove leaves little to no soap scum...my biggest problem is finding books (i&#039;m redoing the the dove experiement but on a smaller and cheaper scale).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m doing a science project to prove if the claim on the dove commercial that dove leaves little to no soap scum&#8230;my biggest problem is finding books (i&#8217;m redoing the the dove experiement but on a smaller and cheaper scale).</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Dec 2010 06:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to see more about the pepper protocol. If all you did was transfer some lime soap on a finger, it would not dissolve in the pepper-water, so it, as opposed to soluble soaps, would not be detected.

If, however, Dove is to sustain its claim that the stearic acid in it is a skin conditioner, then IT must be left on skin.  It may be that fatty acid plates out more smoothly than lime soap, so there may be an advantage there, but I don&#039;t know if there&#039;s any evidence on that.  I do notice that soap substitute cakes with paraffin or stearic acid binders do plate out that binder on the tile and tub below the soap dish, although stearic acid seems to have less of that effect than paraffin -- although it&#039;s said that stearic acid is better than paraffin for coating metals as a corrosion inhibitor.  (This is done for fireworks that have mixtures of iron and potassium nitrate.)  Dextrine bound soap substitutes don&#039;t seem to have this problem, but they feel sticky and scratchy in use.

One definite difference in use of Dove and similar soap substitutes is that in water of even slight &quot;hardness&quot;, they don&#039;t de-foam bubble baths, while soap does.  Whether that&#039;s an advantage or disadvantage depends on whether you&#039;re looking to preserve the bubbles while washing, or to get rid of the bubbles to drain the tub.

As you can see from my Web link, I have some expertise on these matters.  I&#039;m also now the chief scientist of the Natural Clinical Trials Network, so if you&#039;d like to have a product tested clinically, please ask me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to see more about the pepper protocol. If all you did was transfer some lime soap on a finger, it would not dissolve in the pepper-water, so it, as opposed to soluble soaps, would not be detected.</p>
<p>If, however, Dove is to sustain its claim that the stearic acid in it is a skin conditioner, then IT must be left on skin.  It may be that fatty acid plates out more smoothly than lime soap, so there may be an advantage there, but I don&#8217;t know if there&#8217;s any evidence on that.  I do notice that soap substitute cakes with paraffin or stearic acid binders do plate out that binder on the tile and tub below the soap dish, although stearic acid seems to have less of that effect than paraffin &#8212; although it&#8217;s said that stearic acid is better than paraffin for coating metals as a corrosion inhibitor.  (This is done for fireworks that have mixtures of iron and potassium nitrate.)  Dextrine bound soap substitutes don&#8217;t seem to have this problem, but they feel sticky and scratchy in use.</p>
<p>One definite difference in use of Dove and similar soap substitutes is that in water of even slight &#8220;hardness&#8221;, they don&#8217;t de-foam bubble baths, while soap does.  Whether that&#8217;s an advantage or disadvantage depends on whether you&#8217;re looking to preserve the bubbles while washing, or to get rid of the bubbles to drain the tub.</p>
<p>As you can see from my Web link, I have some expertise on these matters.  I&#8217;m also now the chief scientist of the Natural Clinical Trials Network, so if you&#8217;d like to have a product tested clinically, please ask me.</p>
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		<title>By: fiona peebles</title>
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		<dc:creator>fiona peebles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 06:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just watched commercial on dove soap which &quot;does not crack&quot; like other soaps because it is have 1/4 moisture cream in it.

what a bunch of crap.  I didn&#039;t bother reading all the chemical properties of Dove, all I am concerned about is that they are lying.

Their soap cracks and turns black in the crack worse than any other soap I have used.

The only soap I&#039;ve used that does not crack is soap made by home industries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just watched commercial on dove soap which &#8220;does not crack&#8221; like other soaps because it is have 1/4 moisture cream in it.</p>
<p>what a bunch of crap.  I didn&#8217;t bother reading all the chemical properties of Dove, all I am concerned about is that they are lying.</p>
<p>Their soap cracks and turns black in the crack worse than any other soap I have used.</p>
<p>The only soap I&#8217;ve used that does not crack is soap made by home industries.</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had been a long-time user of Dove soap; my family was as well. Then, I recently discovered that the stuff is made from sodium tallowate (usually derived from cattle fat). Actually, if you read the ingredients label, it could be sodium tallowate or sodium palmate; you have no way of knowing which. It really amazed me that, in the 21st century, soap is not being made with non-animal derived substances. Call me crazy, but I just would rather not wash my face with beef fat. The ethical dimension is also a factor in my revulsion. I e-mailed Unilever (Dove&#039;s manufacturer) and told them that I have stopped buying Dove soap, and advised my family and friends to do so as well. I figure this is fair, as it gives Unilever an opportunity to alter their business practices and switch to vegetable-based compounds from which to make their soap.

Now, I use vegetable-based soaps like Tom&#039;s of Maine and olive-oil based soaps, and am very happy with the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had been a long-time user of Dove soap; my family was as well. Then, I recently discovered that the stuff is made from sodium tallowate (usually derived from cattle fat). Actually, if you read the ingredients label, it could be sodium tallowate or sodium palmate; you have no way of knowing which. It really amazed me that, in the 21st century, soap is not being made with non-animal derived substances. Call me crazy, but I just would rather not wash my face with beef fat. The ethical dimension is also a factor in my revulsion. I e-mailed Unilever (Dove&#8217;s manufacturer) and told them that I have stopped buying Dove soap, and advised my family and friends to do so as well. I figure this is fair, as it gives Unilever an opportunity to alter their business practices and switch to vegetable-based compounds from which to make their soap.</p>
<p>Now, I use vegetable-based soaps like Tom&#8217;s of Maine and olive-oil based soaps, and am very happy with the results.</p>
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		<title>By: jen</title>
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		<dc:creator>jen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 13:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have one thing to say - sodium tallowate.  yuk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one thing to say &#8211; sodium tallowate.  yuk.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:26:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for taking the time to post this.  I found it really interesting.  As a former professional house cleaner I can testify that people who used Dove always had the MOST soap scum in their showers and sinks.  Yuck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for taking the time to post this.  I found it really interesting.  As a former professional house cleaner I can testify that people who used Dove always had the MOST soap scum in their showers and sinks.  Yuck!</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue,

Yeah, I didn&#039;t even address the ingredients list in a Dove bar. It makes you think twice about using it, that&#039;s for sure. Glad our products work so well with your skin!

H.M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue,</p>
<p>Yeah, I didn&#8217;t even address the ingredients list in a Dove bar. It makes you think twice about using it, that&#8217;s for sure. Glad our products work so well with your skin!</p>
<p>H.M.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:05:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pretty scary stuff in a Dove bar (and other commercial bars as well).  This puts us right back to homemade soap, of which Alabu bars rate right on top of my list.  Every time I wash with soap (read detergent) in places such as a public restroom, my hands dry right out.  With homemade soap (read Alabu) this does not happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pretty scary stuff in a Dove bar (and other commercial bars as well).  This puts us right back to homemade soap, of which Alabu bars rate right on top of my list.  Every time I wash with soap (read detergent) in places such as a public restroom, my hands dry right out.  With homemade soap (read Alabu) this does not happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal Mayes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hal Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 12:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil,

Yeah I&#039;m kind of into it. What can I say? lol

H.M.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil,</p>
<p>Yeah I&#8217;m kind of into it. What can I say? lol</p>
<p>H.M.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 11:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You like your job way to much. lol.  pretty cool though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You like your job way to much. lol.  pretty cool though.</p>
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